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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
		<link>http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2008/01/11/209/comment-page-1/#comment-2699</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the teachers who are not jumping on-board are not aware is available to them? I think the biggest problem is that perhaps there are too many possibilities for &quot;jumping in&quot;. This actually makes it scarier then it really is.

I like the idea of &quot;Change One Thing&quot;, and relate it to technology. Make one technological change, whether its a Google Reader account or a Wiki, the important thing is to change something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the teachers who are not jumping on-board are not aware is available to them? I think the biggest problem is that perhaps there are too many possibilities for &#8220;jumping in&#8221;. This actually makes it scarier then it really is.</p>
<p>I like the idea of &#8220;Change One Thing&#8221;, and relate it to technology. Make one technological change, whether its a Google Reader account or a Wiki, the important thing is to change something.</p>
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		<title>By: kwhobbes</title>
		<link>http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2008/01/11/209/comment-page-1/#comment-2695</link>
		<dc:creator>kwhobbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate, I like your analogy of the bunny hill. It does capture the essence of what we are discussing. What one usually finds at the top of a bunny hill is an instructor who is there to help those starting in order to make that first experience successful so that the person keeps at it. We have some teachers standing at the top who need that assistance. We also have many more whom are looking at trying skiing but are afraid of hurting themselves, satisfied with the sports they are playing, convinced it&#039;s only for younger people or afraid that they won&#039;t be able to control the skies. To get them to that bunny hill, we need to introduce them to others who, like them, were not interested in trying so that they can share stories and answer questions. 
murcha - exactly. Even I, who have been using the tool for some time, am not always able to leverage it as I&#039;d like at times because of &quot;life&quot;. But, I&#039;m finding it easier to get back into the conversations - kind of like seeing people you haven&#039;t for some time. The conversation just happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate, I like your analogy of the bunny hill. It does capture the essence of what we are discussing. What one usually finds at the top of a bunny hill is an instructor who is there to help those starting in order to make that first experience successful so that the person keeps at it. We have some teachers standing at the top who need that assistance. We also have many more whom are looking at trying skiing but are afraid of hurting themselves, satisfied with the sports they are playing, convinced it&#8217;s only for younger people or afraid that they won&#8217;t be able to control the skies. To get them to that bunny hill, we need to introduce them to others who, like them, were not interested in trying so that they can share stories and answer questions.<br />
murcha &#8211; exactly. Even I, who have been using the tool for some time, am not always able to leverage it as I&#8217;d like at times because of &#8220;life&#8221;. But, I&#8217;m finding it easier to get back into the conversations &#8211; kind of like seeing people you haven&#8217;t for some time. The conversation just happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: what Nate wrote....

Yeah.  What he said.

(I&#039;ve learned when it&#039;s best to just shut up and nod my head in agreement with those who say it better, and both you and Nate did so with this post.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: what Nate wrote&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yeah.  What he said.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve learned when it&#8217;s best to just shut up and nod my head in agreement with those who say it better, and both you and Nate did so with this post.)</p>
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		<title>By: murcha</title>
		<link>http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2008/01/11/209/comment-page-1/#comment-2693</link>
		<dc:creator>murcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having only used twitter seriously in the last week or so, I agree with the social networking comments. Two people on twitter took time and great care to introduce me to some twitter friends whom I could follow and whom they knew would follow me and allow valuable interaction. Otherwise I was following some, unable to interact, unable to learn much  and about to nearly give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having only used twitter seriously in the last week or so, I agree with the social networking comments. Two people on twitter took time and great care to introduce me to some twitter friends whom I could follow and whom they knew would follow me and allow valuable interaction. Otherwise I was following some, unable to interact, unable to learn much  and about to nearly give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2008/01/11/209/comment-page-1/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... why it is that there are many teachers who are not taking advantage of these tools in their teaching...&quot;

The problem is teachers cannot use the technologies to teach before they&#039;ve learned how to use the technologies to learn. You *can* teach Shakespeare without being able to read, but you&#039;re at the mercy of outsiders to tell you what the play&#039;s about before you can pass it on and your interpretations are limited by what you&#039;re told -- rightly or wrongly. 

That&#039;s what&#039;s going on in technology and education. A few people have studied the work, are enthusiastic about the canon, and are working hard to spread the word. Unfortunately, before others can really use the richness of the connected lifestyle, they need to adopt some of the practices of that lifestyle to support their own learning. 

A teacher who wants to use blogs in the classroom should expect to blog for a year to find out what it&#039;s about before subjecting students to a requirement to &quot;write at least 500 words about xyz each week and leave a comment on at least four classmates&#039; postings.&quot;

An instructor that wants to use Ning as an extended classroom should spend time in a Ning as a participant to learn the dynamic of the space as a social environment. Failure to do so turns Ning into a Geocities website and loses the value of being there in the first place. 

Authors are encouraged to write what they know. Teachers can only teach the way they know how to learn. If they are not using the technology to learn, then they are at a severe disadvantage when it comes time to use it to teach. Those who pick a technology and take the time to use it, can usually find a way to adopt, adapt, or abandon it, before moving on. 

As you point out, &quot;[t]eaching concerns human relationships.&quot; Technology allowing us to connect to other humans takes some degree of mastery and the willingness to invest time and effort to acquire it. It&#039;s not overwhelmingly huge, but it does require a certain level of &quot;bunny-slope bravery.&quot; 

&quot;Bunny-slope bravery&quot; is that level of risk taking required for the novice skier who&#039;s standing at the top of the bunny-slope for the first time, and looking down, to actually plant poles and push off. Looking down, that&#039;s one scary hill! Those who overcome the fear and get to the bottom, look back and think, &quot;What was I afraid of?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; why it is that there are many teachers who are not taking advantage of these tools in their teaching&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is teachers cannot use the technologies to teach before they&#8217;ve learned how to use the technologies to learn. You *can* teach Shakespeare without being able to read, but you&#8217;re at the mercy of outsiders to tell you what the play&#8217;s about before you can pass it on and your interpretations are limited by what you&#8217;re told &#8212; rightly or wrongly. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s going on in technology and education. A few people have studied the work, are enthusiastic about the canon, and are working hard to spread the word. Unfortunately, before others can really use the richness of the connected lifestyle, they need to adopt some of the practices of that lifestyle to support their own learning. </p>
<p>A teacher who wants to use blogs in the classroom should expect to blog for a year to find out what it&#8217;s about before subjecting students to a requirement to &#8220;write at least 500 words about xyz each week and leave a comment on at least four classmates&#8217; postings.&#8221;</p>
<p>An instructor that wants to use Ning as an extended classroom should spend time in a Ning as a participant to learn the dynamic of the space as a social environment. Failure to do so turns Ning into a Geocities website and loses the value of being there in the first place. </p>
<p>Authors are encouraged to write what they know. Teachers can only teach the way they know how to learn. If they are not using the technology to learn, then they are at a severe disadvantage when it comes time to use it to teach. Those who pick a technology and take the time to use it, can usually find a way to adopt, adapt, or abandon it, before moving on. </p>
<p>As you point out, &#8220;[t]eaching concerns human relationships.&#8221; Technology allowing us to connect to other humans takes some degree of mastery and the willingness to invest time and effort to acquire it. It&#8217;s not overwhelmingly huge, but it does require a certain level of &#8220;bunny-slope bravery.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Bunny-slope bravery&#8221; is that level of risk taking required for the novice skier who&#8217;s standing at the top of the bunny-slope for the first time, and looking down, to actually plant poles and push off. Looking down, that&#8217;s one scary hill! Those who overcome the fear and get to the bottom, look back and think, &#8220;What was I afraid of?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Olson</title>
		<link>http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2008/01/11/209/comment-page-1/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s amazing!  I find this post on twitter, click on it, and I find myself twitter-quoted!!!  Whoa, pretty crazy.  I was on my way to write a post about twitter and got distracted by yours.  For your readers, check out my struggle with this topic at http://googtweetblog.edublogs.org - &quot;Learning to Share - Part 1&quot; and Learning to Share - Part 2&quot;.  I&#039;m going to be writing my post this a.m. on much the same topic as your post, but from a slightly different perspective.  Off to work on it now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s amazing!  I find this post on twitter, click on it, and I find myself twitter-quoted!!!  Whoa, pretty crazy.  I was on my way to write a post about twitter and got distracted by yours.  For your readers, check out my struggle with this topic at <a href="http://googtweetblog.edublogs.org" rel="nofollow">http://googtweetblog.edublogs.org</a> &#8211; &#8220;Learning to Share &#8211; Part 1&#8243; and Learning to Share &#8211; Part 2&#8243;.  I&#8217;m going to be writing my post this a.m. on much the same topic as your post, but from a slightly different perspective.  Off to work on it now!</p>
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		<title>By: It’s about the other person &#124; Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>It’s about the other person &#124; Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: technology &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s about the other person</title>
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		<dc:creator>technology &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s about the other person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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